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Post by Kanashi on Jul 31, 2004 20:57:05 GMT -5
Ok both of these are supposed to be the next generation hand held. So I want to see what you would rather get.
PSP Has capability of PS2 and higher graphics for games and can play music and DVD's on the UMD disc's. The price may be a high one but its well worth it. The battery power will probably only last about 3 hours, but most only last less than that.
DS Has split screen with sylist touch screen. Has about PS1 to Dreamcast graphics. And is pretty much the same as the others, except its gonna be realy hard to use the stylist and play the game at the same time. And don't say you don't have to use them both at once becuase thats what it is for to use both at once.
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Post by naruto on Aug 1, 2004 2:08:26 GMT -5
the ds sounds like crap
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Post by CactusJack on Aug 1, 2004 2:19:28 GMT -5
Ya know, it doesn't matter how those systems sound now. What really matters is the GAMES. You can throw all the technical mumbo jumbo you want at me, it won't get me to buy a system unless it has games that I am actually interested in. Now, granted, there are not too many game even announced, but I think that making MGS a card strategy game is a great way to shoot yourself in the foot.
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Post by Sage on Aug 1, 2004 2:34:08 GMT -5
I think the DS has a cool feature but i dont think people will take advantage of it like they should. The DS would make RPG menus so much faster but gameplay would be lacking as it doesnt make for a QUICK means of input-- but would be good for anything turn based... point is -- will they be able to use it well in every game? doubt it... As for the PSP -- my major problem with it is its kinda big... and i wish it was a bit larger so they could just use DVDS! Having to buy movied over just so i can watch em portable? forget it! But it has enough power to make a great game - now lets hope people see it that way and MAKE those GAMES! ^_^
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Post by Ruke on Aug 1, 2004 6:00:49 GMT -5
I'm personally going to go with the DS. The two-screens will definitely be useful, giving you easy access to inventories, maps, and other things that will make it so you don't have to pause every two seconds. I'm not so sure about the stylus, I'm afraid that developers will end up finding some gimmicky way to include it instead of not using it without just reason, but I can see plenty of situations where it could be useful. (Typing, tabbing through menus, etc.) The DS is rumored to cost $180, where as the PSP is rumored to be around $450, so price will be a major factor. Nintendo has already proven itself to be competent in the hand-held gaming market, whereas Playstation has a history of... well, breaking. The disk format the PSP will use will contain more data, but will break easier than the cartridge the DS will use.
And besides, Nintendo makes some of the best games. (Super Mario 64? That was teh awesome.)
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Post by Kanashi on Aug 1, 2004 9:46:46 GMT -5
Sorry to say but you guys arn't thinking it out fully. The DS is getting remakes of a bunch of nintendo games. Why would I go out to buy a mario game when I have it on GB advanced and the same graphics, and two why would you need to use a touch screen in that. Also the touch screen like I said will be hard to use and play at the same time, you'll have to stop the game to look or do what you need to with it wich can get boring after awhile and agrivating. For thge PSP its not bigger than the DS its a tad bit longer and you are right about it not depending on the graphics but the games, well all the games coming out for the PSP are brand new not remakes. But see sony isn't trying to make the best portable game system they are trying to make the best portable entertainment system. Oh and the guy that said it should be the size of a regular dvd that would be pointless it wouldn't be hand held and u would have to carry around a bunch of huge game cases.
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Post by Sage on Aug 1, 2004 12:35:07 GMT -5
Sorry but ive seen plenty of portable DVD players that were pretty darn small - why would you buy a movie just so you could watch it only on your PSP? anyways a DVD is the same size as a CD - so if they made it the size of one of those "slim" CD players it would be a little large but still portable.
As for the DS -- from what i have heard using the second screen will be very easy -- i used to glance down at my controller all the time i dont think the second screen will be much harder... I also think Nintendo is smart enough to make new games for the DS as well for the launch day, not just remakes.
The PSP is already large enough that you have to use both your pockets to carry the stuff around for it - i just think they are screwing everyone up by making their system play movies that they have to buy specifically for the PSP. You would have to be rich and really into portable stuff if you wanted to buy all your favorite movies on those smaller disks - who will actually buy a movie they already have for possibly more than it was originally to watch on their PSP?
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Post by Ruke on Aug 1, 2004 17:27:07 GMT -5
Nintendo will certainly come out with new games for the DS, it won't just be a pocket-sized N64. And the screen won't be too awkward to use, you can use your fingers to poke at it just as well as the stylist. (However, this does bring up the issue of a greasy lower screen. But with the PSP's big ol' screen in the front, it'll be easily scratchable, which the DS's clamshell design will prevent.) Plus, it's just as easy to glance from one screen to the other as it is to glance up at the radar in the upper right-hand corner while you're playing your favorite FPS games.
The capability of the PSP to play MP3's is nice, but the "DVDs" (They're UMD's!!!) just seem a little too much. Sony says that the battery life will be around 2.5 hours while playing movies, so, if you charged the thing during the night, played no games, and immediately started watching a movie, you would just barely get to watch the whole thing. Plus, you'll have to buy the UMD's specifically made for the PSP, which means a very limited selection, which will become more and more limited the poorer it does. And really, who would spend more money to get a movie that will be poorer quality (smaller screen), that will probably only be seen once or twice during a trip?
Oh, and new games != good games. PSP will have some good games, but it will have it's equal share of "Disney's X-Treme Skating Adventure!" types. Porting games takes very little time and effort, leaving Nintendo plenty of time to come out with new stuff, plus you have access to the GBA library, giving you a wide selection to choose from. And besides, I wouldn't mind getting the chance to go back and pick up some of the greats that I missed.
And well, for me at least, price is the deciding factor. I'm not willing to pay $300 more, just for the ability to watch movies and listen to MP3's. I can get an MP3 player for less than that.
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Post by CactusJack on Aug 2, 2004 0:29:57 GMT -5
Whoa, dude. Are you makin' fun of DXSA? That's not a BAD game! (That was EXTREME SARCASM). Still, I could pwn joo with Simba!
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Post by Kanashi on Aug 2, 2004 21:20:36 GMT -5
Ok for one the ds is larger than the psp, I've already seen them, two I have already seen the list for both portables systems on games, and the ds is coming out with a bunch of remakes mostly mario, the psp is comeing out with most new only like 2 or 3 are remakes, also if the psp went to a regular cd size then like I said it would be pointless, and a lot of people are going to buy the umd's of their favorite movies and cd's because for one its going to cost less, The ds is also going to have N64 grapics because I've also seen those, I have also seen the PSP's graphics and they are like I said PS2 and higher. Oh and speaking of spending money on buying things you have, why would I go buy Mario Bros. when I have it on a Super Nintendo.
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Post by Sage on Aug 2, 2004 22:48:48 GMT -5
Good point but i still would like to be able to watch a Miyazaki film on my PSP without having to buy it... again. Im all for the PSP but i still dont want to have to buy all new movies just for it and i doubt the movies will be less than 20 dollars... but if they are i'll be happy ^_^
I like the DS mainly because -- it would be great for a game like final fantasy tactics ^_^ the extra screen would make menu browsing so much easier and FFT isnt graphic intensive ^_^
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Post by MarioRPG on Aug 4, 2004 0:01:45 GMT -5
The DS gets my vote for a number of reasons. First and foremost, I have been and always will be a Nintendo fan (I've got: NES, SNES, N64, GCN, GBA SP; I previously owned a GB P, GBC, and a normal GBA, but since traded them off in favor of the newest thing as they've been backwards compatible). Secondly, Nintendo has been and still is strong on the portable gaming market (back in the days of the original, bulky Game Boy, it still took down Sega's Game Gear, which had two key things the GB didn't: the screen was back-lit and in color). Third, with the touch-screen, as many others have already said, it will open the doors for new gaming possiblilities in many many different ways. Forth, you can't go wrong with Mario! ^_^ 'Sides, he got the "Legends" award at last year's G-Phoria. In any case, modern gaming would be drastically different, in my opinion, without Mario. Going back to his roots, the first Mario games set the standard for how many games were created and evolved. I could keep rambling on and on, but I think I've made my point good 'nuf.
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Post by Raven on Aug 15, 2004 12:33:05 GMT -5
I think Kananshi is wrong about the grafics of the DS, I have seen them to and there are much better then you say. The one I saw was almoost gameqube qulaty. And for games medroind prime hunters, whish looks realy good.
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Post by Kanashi on Aug 15, 2004 22:58:18 GMT -5
Ah I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one, I have not seen anything close to gamecube on the DS so far.
And I'm not saying I'm putting down the DS, it's I think Ninendo finaly has competition, oh and the guy about the sega stuff, you have to remember Nintendo was makeing systems and good games before sega came out, so no one really looked at what the sega handheld could do, and no one was really looking at games like we do today, they never expected to last this long.
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Post by Craig on Aug 16, 2004 11:13:40 GMT -5
Never been a big fan of Nintendo's handhelds. Plus, why two screens? Makes no sense.
Anywho, I doubt PSP will do good. With past handheld bombs, I wouldn't be surprised if this got totally shut out...too much hype.
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